Weinam Creek Priority Development Area at Redland Bay

Weinam Creek Priority Development Area at Redland Bay

Redland Bay residents are up in arms about Redland City Council’s plans to develop a large 600 vehicle car park on flood prone land next to a quiet suburban neighbourhood.

Five wasted years

At Redland City Council’s request in 2013 the Newman State Government declared a Priority Development Area (PDA) around Weinam Creek where ferries depart for the Southern Moreton Bay islands. Assorted politicians congratulated themselves for this “great result” a “turning point for Redland Bay and the Bay islands”.

Weinam Creek Priority Development Area

Walker Group was selected as preferred developer of the Weinam Creek PDA in 2014 but years went by (and local council elections in 2016) without any development plans being unveiled to the community.

In May 2018 local media reported that Walker Group’s plans for redevelopment at Weinam Creek will not go ahead. Walker Group was walking away.

Months earlier the Council decided to spend $3.2 million on a flood prone area known as Moores Farm for car parking at Weinam Creek.

At that time, publicly at least, the illusion of Walker Group’s involvement in the PDA was being maintained.  But behind the scenes it was clear that the Council was already moving onto “Plan B”.

Instead of development being done at no cost to ratepayers, the Council’s property company (Redland Investment Corporation)  revealed its own plans for development of the Weinam PDA.

Residents were told that the Council had stepped in to develop the precinct to ensure it included significant public infrastructure.  Presumably, the private sector developer selected many years earlier was not interested in providing much public infrastructure, such as car parking.

“The master plan, being developed by council for delivery in stages, will transform the waterfront of Redland Bay and enhance the amenity and functionality of the busy local community hub,” said Mayor Karen Williams.

No one bothered to apologise to the community for five years of delay and unfulfilled expectations.

Community reaction to Plan B

Details of proposed car parking at Moores Farm.

People living near the the former Moores Farm are angry with the prospect of having a major car park with space for 600 cars imposed into their neighbourhood.

Residents reject claims by the Council that community consultation done in 2014 is sufficient

Residents have said: “We urge the council to listen and consult with the local community and not move the problem of the existing carpark from one side of the creek to the other. The poor decision by council will ultimately prove to be more costly for the local rate payers.”

There is also criticism of plans to sell off a chunk of this land for residential development.

Community action

Residents near Moores Farm have established a Facebook group (Moores Farm Carpark Redland Bay) to share information.

Professional advice is being sought and crowd funding options are being explored.

Residents are invited to discuss their concerns at the next meeting of Redlands2030 on 27 September.

A petition is circulating

A photo of the proposed car parking area

Local residents are now petitioning against the Council plans to construct a 600 car park space allotment on Moores Farm and to relocate the Boat Ramp at Weinam Creek.

This community are greatly concerned that the proposed carpark raises several issues that will impact negatively on their community and the existing character of the lands on the southern side of Weinam Creek.  Some of their concerns relate to:

  • Flooding of the site during storm events is a concern and mitigation measures seem non existent. Cars parked by Island residents could be stranded and how could up to 600 cars be evacuated when a flood happens.Of course then there is the safety hazard for people trying to use the carpark during flood events.
  • Traffic in and out of the locality, is by the existing Moores Road, Auster Street and the Esplanade.It seems unlikely these streets can carry the additional carpark traffic without impacting existing residents and there are concerns that The Esplanade will turn into a “rat run” for people heading south.
  • Noise and light pollution will affect the residents living on Moores Rd and those backing onto the carpark on the Esplanade and Auster St. The prospect of late night and early morning movement of vehicles including boat trailers is a concern”. Crime problems in the existing car parks at Weinam Creek indicatesecurity measures will entail all night lighting will be installed adversely impacting on local amenity.
  • Property valuations are being put at risk, because “nobody wants to live adjacent a 600 spaced carpark”
  • Locally birdlife and the flying fox community are abundant and there has been recent recent sightings of Koalas and all will be put at risk by the construction and operation of a massive car park in that area.
  • Crime brought closer to where families live as it is well known that over the past 30 years the existing carparks have numerous reports of theft from vehicles and there are no Cameras in the local carparks.

Stop the bureaucratic bungling

Residents near Weinam Creek and on the southern Moreton Bay island are suffering from double bungling by the state government and Redland City Council.

The State Government should revoke its powers to declare and manage priority development areas which override normal planning processes and reduce community consultation.

Redland City Council should wind up its secretive Redland Investment Corporation.

Then the Council should initiate a proper consultative planning process to achieve cost effective provision of infrastructure at Weinam Creek which meets the needs of ferry users and Redland Bay residents.

Redlands2030 – 21 September 2018

8 Comments

James, Oct 15, 2018

Most of this area is already a giant carpark for the Bay Islands which is currently set on prime waterfront land so moving the carpark away from the water front seems pretty logical to me.
This will lead to improved public facilities on the water front for all to enjoy.
Apart from the new ferry facilities this area looks like its stuck in the 70’s.
Maybe it’s time to move on.

David, Sep 22, 2018

Building a new car park is not a solution. Here is a golden opportunity to develop a modern public transport system that will not only meet the current community’s needs but those in the future. What’s more the character of the area can be retained, a car park, boat ramps will not do that! Money set aside for this poor second-rate proposal would be better served by investing in public transport using a no-waiting bus service and utilising taxis out of high demand periods. Where is the vision that is required to meet our future transport needs. Building more roads and car parks is a 20th century failed solution.

Lynn, Sep 22, 2018

I have just spoken with Cr. Julie Talty, whose Division 6 encompasses Giles Road and discussed my suggestion of having the Moore’s Road carpark relocated to this area. She stated that this would not happen because the ‘Islanders wouldn’t like that’ according to a survey conducted TEN YEARS AGO. Islanders have stated that they would have issues with boarding a bus with their baggage. Simple answer? Bus can tow a baggage trailer.

Cr. Talty also mentioned that Council had purchased a parcel of land in Heinemann Road for a multi-sports facility with a dedicated car park. I asked why the multi-storeyed Islander carpark couldn’t be part of this development ie ground level for short-term/sports parking and the upper levels for long-term parking? I was told that zoning would prevent this from happening. Simple, I thought! Change the zoning!!!! It is being done all the time for other developments, where deemed necessary, why not here?

Please, can we get some commonsense to prevail instead of passing the buck from Council to State and back again?

I applaud Council for the sporting initiative as it would encourage Islanders to join Mainlanders in sporting endeavours to help eliminate the ‘Us and Them’ mentality that seems to be felt by many on both sides of the Bay.

Jason B, Sep 24, 2018

Smart thinking by the community reps….same old same old by Councillors

Craig Guerin, Sep 22, 2018

As a resident whose house will back directly on to the proposed A1 car park, concerns we have raised with council in regards to security, particularly once a footbridge is in place, lighting, noise , I can say that the response has been one of woefully inadequate standard government gobblygook. We have had no opportunity to voice our concerns about this current plan. The previous plan put forward in 2013/14 which the community did have an opportunity to input on and subsequently dropped by the Walker group, is vastly different to the current one. I have been told that if it is “deemed necessary”, a 20 day public consultation period may be enacted and that we the community have had a chance for input back in 2013/14. The previous owners of the land , now owned by council, had tried many times to develop the land only to have applications denied on the basis of water overflows, acid sulphate soils and flooding issues. These all seem to have miraculously disappeared now that the council are the owners!

Lynn, Sep 22, 2018

I sympathise with the residents in the Moores Road/The Esplanade area of Redland Bay. I wouldn’t hold your breath, though, for the 20 day consultation. I was told today that all our Councillors can do is listen to comments and pass them on to the Council. That Councillors do not make the decisions. Really? Why do we have Councillors for each Division if someone else holds the power for final decision-making?
Yep, you guessed it! The State Government has the over-riding power, according to Cr. Talty.
Here we go again. The hot potato is being tossed around with no-one with the ability to catch it.

Russell Sprouts, Sep 21, 2018

One word – “bridge”. How long could any foreshore carpark extension, Redland Bay or islands, meet demands of island residents and visitors, before another one is needed?
It is unlikely barge fares would drop, short of competition, probably even less likely then more ferries introduced to the marine park (the environment will no doubt thank you for dredging etc).
This is no more than just another stop-gap or band-aid solution. Give it 4-5 years max and it will need another funding injection.
Btw what happened to the 2011 GHD study for alternative transport/routes that we have all paid for?

Lynn Christine Adams, Sep 21, 2018

I have already expressed my concerns to Cr. Mark Edwards relating to this unimaginative, grossly inadequate and developer-priority plan to which I received a non-helpful, intimidating reply. Cr. Edwards completely ignored the suggestions I made i.e. relocating the carpark to Giles Road and keeping valuable waterside land for the use of the public. A shuttle bus (as is available now) could transfer passengers out of Weinam Creek area via Meissner Street, Government Road, through the new, upgraded intersection with Cleveland/Redland Bay Road across to Giles Road. This intersection was upgraded recently to eventually be part of a Victoria Point bypass, so islanders can proceed in any direction they wish from there.

I feel the current plan has lost sight of opportunities to include tourist facilities, ie waterfront dining, interpretive play area, sealife museum, art/quality souvenir gallery, etc. etc., to name a few.

Public consultation in 2014 is now completely irrelevant/redundant to today’s circumstances and a new round MUST BE initiated.

How out of touch this Council is, to think local residents would welcome a 600 space carpark overlooking their backyards!

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